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Christ said, "Go and make disciples...". But some ...

2008-07-08T19:21:49.674-04:00

Christ said, "Go and make disciples...". But some successor of St. Peter corrects, if you don't go, don't worry, for pagans can still be saved.

Christ said, "I am the vine... apart from me you can do nothing". But some successor of St. Peter corrects, if you who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in your actions to do his will as you know it through your

how is one "moved by grace" apart from the Word (f...

2008-06-29T09:37:54.601-04:00

how is one "moved by grace" apart from the Word (for they "do not know the Gospel")? How can such a debased conscience be sufficient to bring saving knowledge of Christ?

Indeed.

My Catholic Dad was clearly taught that "outside the Church there is no salvation" and it was literally imposed. My parochial-school educated, cradle Catholic husband might still be attending the

>>Those who, through no fault of their own, do not...

2008-06-28T11:33:17.937-04:00

>>Those who, through no fault of their own, do not know the Gospel of Christ or his Church, but who nevertheless seek God with a sincere heart, and, moved by grace, try in their actions to do his will as they know it through the dictates of their conscience - those too may achieve eternal salvation. 337.<<

This statement seems pretty clear that the Catholic church here is allowing an "an

Hi folks,I came to this site by way of another Lut...

2008-06-28T08:19:58.432-04:00

Hi folks,

I came to this site by way of another Lutheran blog.

The sentiments expressed here are so familiar. I am currently leaving a ten year sojourn in the Church of Rome back to the LCMS.

By way of background, I am German-born, Catholic father, Lutheran mother. My sister and I were raised Lutheran.

I, too, heard the siren call of Rome and thought I was

Vicar John,This is a complicated one, and I will d...

2008-06-27T15:53:54.067-04:00

Vicar John,

This is a complicated one, and I will do my best to answer in spite of the limitations of human knowledge with regard to the mind of God.

These quotations have aften been misused, both by liberal catholics, and by critics of catholicism, to suggest universalism. That is simply not the case, and I believe a careful reading of the text, which may be illucidated by the

Let's read a bit farther...PART 1, SECTION 2 2, CH...

2008-06-27T11:27:20.729-04:00

Let's read a bit farther...

PART 1, SECTION 2 2, CHAPTER 3 3, ARTICLE 9, PARAGRAPH 3, SUBSECTION 3, HEADING 5

"Outside the Church there is no salvation"

846 How are we to understand this affirmation, often repeated by the Church Fathers? 335 Re-formulated positively, it means that all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body:

You hit the nail on the head with the last sentenc...

2008-06-27T01:17:45.461-04:00

You hit the nail on the head with the last sentence in your post -- who decides, indeed? Private judgment of each individual believer, or the Magisterium of the Church?

Pastor Woodring:Welcome home to Rome! My late fat...

2008-06-26T20:42:12.315-04:00

Pastor Woodring:

Welcome home to Rome! My late father was a 1960 Concordia Sem grad (classmate of Father Neuhaus and Robert Wilken), and a Piepkorn devotee. I swam the Tiber from Lutheranism in 1993 and was confirmed into full communion with the Church in 1994, loving every moment of it. I simply brought the good parts of my Lutheran heritage with me, and left those parts which sadly